Monday, December 15, 2008

Warner Family Christmas '08

Tonight we celebrated Christmas with Trey's family since we'll be in Washington with mine on Christmas day. We tried to get a family photo in but Walter was not being very cooperative. I think he was embarrassed of his outfit. He did look a little ridiculous, but no Christmas is complete without Rudolph the Red Nosed Maltipoo.
Merry Christmas everybody! This is by far my favorite holiday and I can't wait for Trey to open his presents. I think I get more excited than he does. Maybe it's because I start making a list for him somewhere around August or September. Maybe I should get a life.

Monday, December 8, 2008

Rated Hero Show Coming Up!

This is a flyer for Trey's band's upcoming show. Everybody should come, it's gonna be lots of fun!

Monday, November 24, 2008

Party TIme!

Ashley posted already on her blog about the party we're having at my house on December 4th. To avoid repeating what she said, just refer to her post about it. Click here :)

Tuesday, November 18, 2008

California to Arizona

Last week Trey and I took a little trip down to California, mostly to visit some friends and in my case, to go shopping. I bought some sweet sunglasses in LA, but accidentally dropped them off the Huntington Beach pier the next day. So sad. They were pretty cheap but for a split second I debated jumping in after them. We also had tickets to the Arizona Cardinals game the following Monday so we thought we make a road trip out of it. I am mostly only posting the picture below because it looks like Trey has an earring. He could be in New Kids on the Block. The guy waving is Jeff. He is probably wasted by this time in the game. Cameron, on the other hand, has no excuse.
Our seats were a little high up as you can tell from this picture. It was my first NFL game and it was so much fun! I wish Utah had a team cause I sure hate the Jazz.

Sunday, November 2, 2008

Carving Pumpkins

I'm never satisfied with the easy pumpkin carving of a few strategically placed triangles, I always opt for the more challenging designs. This year I went with your typical skull pirate. I'm working so hard in the picture I don't have time to smile. Trey would rather mingle in the background than relieve my aching hands. And here he is trying to take some credit for my work of art :)
It turned out pretty well for the most part. Kind of a waste of time though since it was carved a day or 2 before Halloween. Oh well, the kids had fun. I was too busy to notice, but someone told me they did.

Saturday, October 25, 2008

Rated Hero

Trey's band has been writing a lot of new stuff lately so we want to see what the world thinks about it. Here's a demo of one of the songs. Let me know how it makes you feel inside.

Thursday, October 23, 2008

Helpful Hints…or in other words, I’m Bored

I don’t have anywhere to be for about an hour so I thought I’d share some words I like to call wisdom.

1. There’s a common phrase about having a “buttload” of something. Did you know it’s actually supposed to be a “boatload?” Think about what you’re saying with the first one and you realize how stupid you sound. Trey brought this to my attention.

2. If you want your house to smell better, put some potpourri in your vacuum bags. It smells amazing and you might enjoy vacuuming even more. Or you can be like Ashley and pour it directly into your vents.

3. Speaking of vacuums, if you have 2 levels in your house buy 2 vacuums. I find that I don’t vacuum the upstairs as much because I hate carrying the vacuum up there so I recently purchased a second one. Now I’m just waiting for it to come in the mail so I can vacuum upstairs. Lazy American? No, smart American.

4. Don’t quit eating a delicious food you love for the sake of a diet. It will only make you miserable. That’s why I’m never quitting Diet Pepsi again…it makes me happy. Just work out a little harder if you need to.

5. Shop more on eBay. I save so much money on dumb things like razor blades or even perfume when I get it on eBay instead of paying full price at the store. And plus, it’s fun to get packages once in a while.

6. I’m the kind of person who doesn’t get gas til the light comes on in my car. I recently found out that you should not go below 1/4 tank because there is actually a lot of crap at the bottom of the tank that will clog your fuel filter and pump. After spending more than $2000 this summer to fix both of our vans fuel pumps and filters I have learned my lesson.

I can’t think of anything else off the top of my head but if you have any ideas that would improve my life and well-being please share them with me.

Wednesday, October 22, 2008

Cold Blooded

I'm sure most couples are the same as us...wife likes a normal temperature in the house, while husband likes it a bit colder, usually uncomfortably colder. Trey takes hot showers every night before bed too so that makes his body temperature even hotter. Usually I'm okay with opening the window, I like it colder when I sleep too. But last night Trey opened the window and put a fan in front of it to bring the cold air in faster. He also thought it was funny to point the fan straight at my face. It was 39 degrees outside and our heat was turned off, so there was nothing to combat the pneumonia I was sure to wake up with. Under 10 lbs of blankets I actually slept pretty good (and Trey woke up in the middle of the night to shut the window...he was cold :) ). After I got home from working out this morning I told Trey it was time to turn on the heater. He jokingly said no because even he knew it was freezing. I checked the thermostat and it said 59. Poor little Walter gets so cold without much hair since we shaved him but luckily with his new purchase he was okay with the winter weather inside our house. What do you think?
I'm not as lame as you think. I don't ever dress my dog up in clothes, but he really does shiver when I take him out. And plus, this is a very manly hoodie. And his collar has fake spikes on it.

Friday, October 3, 2008

Road Trip

After 5 months of agony, Trey and I left Detroit for good...hopefully. We made a stop on our drive home in Chicago to hang out with our family there. We ended up staying for 2 days and got a chance to go to the Chicago aquarium. Luckily I had Ashley snap this photo before the lady came over and said no flash photography. We are cheesy, but mostly just so happy to not be in Detroit anymore.
The aquarium had a 4-D movie theater, which included water being sprayed in your face, a stick jabbing much too hard in your back, a nice mildew smell and lots of screaming children who did not appreciate being sprayed in the face. Taya and Ash had to spend most of their time outside.
Once we decided to leave Chicago, our next destination was straight home to Utah. Unfortunately, after just 3 hours of driving, the stupid van wouldn't start after we filled up for gas. We left it at the gas station and called the tow truck the next morning to come get us. So it turned out that Williamsburg, Iowa was our next destination, since we had to stay there overnight in a hotel room that could've been decorated by your local grandmother, with plenty of quilted and cross stitched items to go around. I was really surprised Trey wasn't that mad...he said he was just happy to be out of Detroit and going home.
After 5 hours of chilling in the auto shop we were finally back on the road again. Not the funnest time of my life but really no surprise since the vans have been breaking down all summer. We've made auto friends/enemies from Orem, UT to Jersey City, NJ and hopefully we will never have to see any of them again. I ended the summer with 90 sales, which was 10 short of my goal but 90 better than what I expected after that first week of tears. Hallelujah.

Thursday, September 4, 2008

Do You Know Your Facial Hair?

Trey has been growing a beard for the past few days but this morning he stepped out of the bathroom and I couldn't help but laugh. He had shaved part of the beard into what we both thought was called Handlebars. However, after doing some research I discovered that he had shaved "Friendly Mutton Chops." Not as tough sounding, but definitely tougher looking. He's got to look tough if he's going to become a cage fighter when we get back to Utah. Look out Chuck Liddell.

For your information only...

Wednesday, September 3, 2008

Site Seeing In The Dirty D

When you live in a place as beautiful as I do you really need to take advantage of every opportunity to see the sites. That's what we decided to do last week while we waited to pick up some of the guys. I thought, Let's try to capture how clean and well landscaped this place is. So Trey helped me out by striking a pose in nature...

Just around the corner we found a lovely neighborhood that really helped to capture the beautiful architecture you will find here.

And across the street from this burnt down beauty was this...

I guess instead of putting a sign and balloons in the yard to announce a party it's easier just to spray paint "Party" on the boarded up windows. Very efficient. And last, but not least, my favorite sign of the summer...

Nothing like some inspiring words from the local church.

Saturday, August 30, 2008

Night at the Rock Show

Last night we went and saw a friend's band...Scary Kids Scaring Kids...and another one called Finch. Some people would call it loud noise, but I for one enjoyed it. Made me miss going to Trey's shows.

I think the boys would've liked the show more if they weren't all wishing it was them up on the stage. Soon enough love!

Thursday, August 28, 2008

Ashley Tagged Me

Ashley tagged me and she's right, normally I wouldn't do these things but because she called me out, I'm all about proving somebody wrong.

4 things I like about my husband
-His hilarious sense of humor. Trey has at least 3 different voices that crack me up immediately.
-His sexy dance moves that make me laugh so hard. He's not embarrassed to do them in public either.
-He's an amazing musician and songwriter. I think this might be why I first fell in love with him.
-He will do anything for me (he shaved his head just because I love it). 

4 movies I'd watch more than once
-A Knights Tale (I always had a thing for Heath Ledger, r.i.p.)
-Ocean's 11
-Runaway Bride

4 shows I watch
-CSI: Crime Scene Investigation
-That 70s Show
-The Ellen Degeneres Show

4 places I've been
-Puerto Rico

4 places I'd like to go
-South Africa
-New Zealand

4 people who email me regularly...
-Grandma Warner
-My mom
-Bill Collectors
-Facebook invites

4 things I like to eat
-Taco Bell
-Chocolate Ice Cream with Bananas and Strawberries from Coldstone
-Banana Cream Cheesecake from Cheesecake Factory
-A healthy Bacon Cheeseburger from Chili's with a side of ranch dressing

4 things I'm looking forward to in the coming year...
-Going on a cruise
-Getting pregnant
-Not selling security systems
-Going to a Dallas Cowboys game

4 people I tag
Anyone that reads this blog that hasn't already been tagged

Friday, August 22, 2008


I'm forcing Trey to take a vacation in the fall (October or November) and I'm going to plan a cruise to the Caribbean for us to go on. We want all of our friends and family to join us so if you're reading this you are probably invited, but you need to let me know if you're interested so we can start planning. If you think the picture below looks like fun you can come. If not, you're lame. 

Stick a Fork In Me

I'm done. After 4 months of waking up at 9am, putting on the same blue polo and cargo shorts, meeting at 11am, lunch with the boys, then knocking til 9pm I've finally decided to throw in the towel. We are going to be out here in Detroit for 34 more days but I don't want to knock another door. And since my husband is the boss, I can do whatever I want. I might spend the time remembering what it feels like to be a girl and maybe even relearning to dress like one. 

Saturday, August 9, 2008

Detroit...The Land Where Dreams Come True

Last Friday we made the big move from Chicago to Detroit. This is the final city in our tour of summer selling. For those of who you have never been to Detroit, this is what they want you to think it looks like...
But this is the reality...
Big stars like Eminem and Kid Rock have come out of Detroit, making us all believe that's the caliber of people you will find there.
But this is the reality...
Let me know if anyone wants to come visit me.

So Ridiculous It's Sweet

When you're in the hood, you come across cars all the time that are worth about 2G's and their rims and lift jobs are worth double. I was entertained the whole time we were in Chicago and took pictures of every one that was worthy of holding a spot in my phone library. They came to be known as "Calendar Cars", or cars worthy of a calendar if we were to make one of ridiculous cars in the hood. In the above picture I'm glad there is a mini van in the back to help you judge how lifted this car really is. You also can't tell from the picture but this car has Lamborghini doors. Awesome.

Thursday, July 31, 2008

Outside the Bubble...

Even though I grew up outside of Utah, I've lived there the past 7 years of my life and grown pretty accustommed to the way things go down there. It is definitely like no place on earth, it is not the real world. Anyone who thinks otherwise is only kidding themselves. Time for a reality check.

Every summer when we leave to some random place for summer sales, I am reminded of this concept. And luckily I've taken pictures of all the many things that have brought me back to reality.
One thing that has boldly stood out to me is the sanitation issue in these eastern states. It is literally impossible to walk into a women's restroom and find a toilet seat cover in the stall. Since I work about 11 hours a day I get to use many different public restrooms and I can honestly say I have never seen a toilet seat cover. Needless to say, I've been forced to hover. One of the grosser things I've come across in a public restroom was when I had to sneak into the men's because the women's was broken. Trey stood guard for me luckily. I looked into the trash can and saw lots of toilet paper with an unknown brown substance covering it all. I quickly learned that substance was poop. I guess in Latin countries it clogs the toilets if you flush paper down them so you have to just throw it in the garbage. Unfortunately, nobody told these guys they are in America now. Toilets work here.

Another great site you won't see in Utah is lawn ornaments. People decorate their yards here like National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. It is entertaining and ridiculously tacky. And the ornaments don't just stop at one or two. People can't even mow their grass because there are so many fake animals in it. You can name any animal and I guarantee they make it in a lawn ornament. On top of that, nobody takes down their Christmas lights. Also entertaining.
I just realized I could write a book about this stuff. So maybe I should wrap it up and save the rest for another day. Stay tuned for 26"inch rims on a jacked up Chevy Caprice.

Friday, July 4, 2008

Things I Miss When I'm Stuck In New Jersey For The Summer...

Being away from home for 5 months out of the year is hard enough but it's even harder when those 5 months happen to fall during the nicest time of the year...summer. You feel me. While everyone else is laying out by the pool, vacationing to wherever, I find myself at the complete opposite end of the spectrum. So here are some things I am missing while I'm out here knocking door after door:

#1 My Family
#2 My Best Friends
#3 Vacations With Trey (Hawaii)
#4 Lake Powell With The Fam
#5 Rated Hero Shows
#6 Having a Tan
I could go on and on, but I don't have enough pictures to go along with every single thing I miss. Stay tuned for things I don't miss.

Sunday, June 22, 2008

Day in Philly

Since we are leaving for Detroit in 3 weeks we decided we need to see as much of this area as we can before we take off. So after church today we headed to Philadelphia, only about 1 1/2 hours away. We had so much fun and loved the city. It was so clean and surprisingly uncrowded.
Clearly, this is a picture of us in front of the Rocky statue. And the one below is a Paul Revere statue I think. Who knows.
And I guess this place is the originator of Philly Cheese Steaks.
I'm going to leave the rest of the blogging up to Jenna. I don't have as much time on my hands as she does. Thanks.

Thursday, June 5, 2008

Handsome Hubby

Trey walked out of the bathroom the other day looking like this. I begged him not to go to work with that hair do and luckily he told me he was planning on wearing a hat. I was wondering why he was using the blow dryer for so long. He showed up to the morning meeting and everyone thought it was hilarious. Hopefully he doesn't mind that I'm sharing this picture with the world. It's not his best look.

Friday, May 30, 2008

Some Days You Just Want To Cry...

Story #1
So last Friday I was out knocking doors and it was about 4:45. I had an appointment with a home at 5 but really needed to use the bathroom so I went to the local Dunkin Donuts to use their bathroom. I was wearing a jacket since it was chilly outside and as I hovered over the toilet and starting to go to the bathroom, my phone in slow motion came out of my jacket pocket and plopped into the toilet. Though grossed out by my own pee, I dove in after it as soon as I could but watched in horror as the screen went black. I am happy that the bathroom was only for one person or I would've struggled at this point. I wobbled over to the sink with my pants still down and washed my hands. I debated about whether or not to wash the pee off my phone but decided that would make it even worse so I just held it until the hand dryer. I walked out of their with my head hung low and drove to my appointment and luckily got the sale. I explained to them what happened with my phone so luckily they let me use theirs. I went to T Mobile after that and they said they would overnight me a new one. The next morning in one of my sales, the technician came in and I asked if I could use his phone. He said laughing, "Oh yeah, your customer yesterday told me you dropped yours in the toilet." Not funny. 

Story #2 

Memorial is a pretty big day for selling because it's a holiday which means most people are home, not at work. So we went out knocking bright and early to get a head start on the day. The very first door that I knocked went like this...

Me: Hey I'm just here about that security sign out front. Did you guys put that in or was the system in the home when you moved in? 
Man: We had that put in, why?
Me: Oh we're just coming through the area to some homes that were set up a few years ago with the older equipment wanting to update the systems. 
Man: Well we don't even use the security system anymore so we're not interested, but do you have a card?
Me: Actually I left them in the car. If you're really interested I'll go grab one but if not no big deal.
Man: Oh ok, then no.
Me: Ok see ya

5 minutes late I'm driving in the van and a cop flips around and pulls me over. It went like this...Just picture the cop being a total jerk and loving that I'm crying...
Me: Hey
Cop: What are you doing out here? Are you soliciting?
Me: Huh? What do you mean soliciting? We sell security systems...
Cop: Why are you doing that on a holiday? 
Me: Holidays are a big day for us cause everyone is home.
Cop: That doesn't make sense at all. No one is working today. Don't you see how that would be suspicious? Someone called in saying that you were asking if their security system was working and you wouldn't give them a business card. 
Me: I didn't ask them if it worked, I just asked about it. And I told them my cards were in the car but I'd get one if they wanted it.
Cop: What company are you working for anyways? How long have you worked for them? They just send you out here to bother people on a holiday? I need your license and registration.
Me: Its called Pinnacle, we do this every summer and this is my second year.
(He goes back to the car with his buddy. My tears start to flow. 5 minutes later...)
Cop: Have you ever been arrested before?
Me: No
Cop: Are you sure you've never been arrested before?
Me: Yes I'm sure. Why?
Cop: Because your license pulls you up as a convicted felon. Why would it say that if you've never been arrested.
Me: I don't know, because it's wrong. Are you guys just messing with me?
Cop: This is no joke mam. What were you arrested for?
Me: I've barely even been pulled over, I've never been arrested. What does it say I'm convicted of?
Cop: It's still trying to pull that up. Why would it say you were a felon if you weren't?
Me: Sir, I don't know but I'm not a convicted felon. 
Cop: We're probably going to have to tow this van. Have you been to jail before? Is there someone else working with you here?
Me: Can I call my husband?
Cop: Sure but I'm not talking to him.
Me: (calling Trey about 15 times in a row and he won't answer...more tears)

To make a long story short...Jeff showed up to help me out. They told me they were giving me a break by not towing my car and not taking me to jail, just giving me 2 tickets and suggesting I look into why it says I'm a convicted felon. They were totally nice to Jeff as soon as he got there. Meanwhile I was traumatized for the rest of the day and had sporadic spurts of tears. I now hate all cops and get nervous every time I see one. Rewriting that dialogue brought back the emotion, now I'm pissed.

Sunday, May 25, 2008

I was just gonna say...

Every Sunday in church I find myself so annoyed with people who make comments because they always start out with "I was just gonna say..." You should all notice how often people begin their sentences that way and maybe it happens in other situations but I notice it in church. I guess it annoys me so much because it is just stating the obvious. Of course we know that you were "just gonna say" raised your hand for that very purpose. Here's a word of advice...if you decide to raise your hand and comment in Sunday School or wherever just get straight to the point. You don't need to preface your comment by telling everyone that you are planning on saying something, I think they already know that. 

Saturday, May 10, 2008

And now for Jenna's debut

This video takes a little longer but it's worth the wait. I don't know why my family is so jumpy but it makes for good video I guess. Trey continues to be amazed at how easily I jump. He doesn't even try to scare me, it just happens. A few weeks ago we were watching Law & Order and I freaked out so much in one scene that I almost fell off the couch. Trey just stared at me, completely unaffected.

Thursday, May 8, 2008

Do you have the hands of a surgeon?

This video is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. I could watch Ashley over and over and over again. This was taken about 3 years ago but I just found it on my computer and felt inspired to share with the world. I also uploaded it to Youtube trying to make Ashley famous. If you want to try this on your own friends that haven't done it before go to

Tuesday, May 6, 2008

Waltipoo the Maltipoo

I never was much of a dog person until I married Trey, and even then, that was a stretch. I felt a little forced into the Hank purchase, but Heidi was a nice addition to the family. So after Heidi died and we decided to sell Hank, I admit I was a little relieved. No more slobber, dog hair, crazy OCD bulldogs in the house. However, once I got to thinking about the lonely times when Trey is out of town, I decided I needed a replacement dog. So that's why I bought Walter the same day we sold Hank. And now, he is the funnest thing in the world. He looks more like a stuffed animal than a real dog.
This post is about 4 months late but I decided Walter needed a place in the blog world. He's the main reason why I hate going to work everyday. Oh, well...that and I have one of the worst jobs in the world at the moment :) Only 124 more days to go though. The only problem with having a puppy in the house while you're at work all day is the mess you are guaranteed to come home to. For instance, I'm pretty sure our DVD player is ruined. I came home today and the cord was almost chewed all the way through. The other day I came home to every single one of my shoes pulled out of my closet and laying on the living room floor. I guess he keeps it interesting for me at least.
These pictures were both taken with my phone so they're not the best but they do at least give a visual.

Tuesday, April 29, 2008

New York, New York

After an accidental missing of stake conference last Sunday, we decided to make the most of the day and check out Manhattan. I've never been there before so I think it was most exciting for me. This is Trey and I in time square. This is usually where the naked cowboy hangs out but unfortunately for us, it was much too cold for him.Trey has always wanted to get his picture drawn on the street by a one of those street artists so we decided to splurge since it was only $5 per person. The guy drew us in about 10 minutes but neither of us were super pleased with how we turned out. Trey looks super gay and I just look weird. You can kind of see how huge he made my butt in the picture below. It was fun though and definitely entertaining for those 10 minutes.

Jersey Girl

Well after the worst road trip I've ever been on, we finally made it to New Jersey 3 1/2 days later. Our van was definitely worse off than I was however. After about 4 hours of driving, the van started really struggling going up hills. He wouldn't even do more than 40-50 on some of them. We rode it out and made it to North Platte, Nebraska, where we stayed the night and tried to do our own little fixer upper in the morning. That clearly didn't work so we made it a few more hours before pulling off and getting a quote from an auto shop in Omaha. They told us it would cost $1181 to fix the fuel pump so we left angry and decided to tough out the issue. By this point, we were lucky to get up to 60mph on flat ground and even hit 31mph uphill! So we drove all day and stopped in Davenport, Iowa for the night. The next morning we went to an auto shop and they told us it would cost $175 to fix the van...lucky we didn't get ripped off at the other place. So it took about an hour to fix, meanwhile it's freezing outside and nobody will let Walter inside anywhere. We got kicked out of Burger King and the mall unfortunately.

After the van got fixed, we got back on the road and we could actually drive 80mph now! After cruising along like we were unstoppable for about 5 hours, this happened...
Luckily we had to remove half the packed van to get to the tools and spare. That was awesome.
What was also great was that this happened right around 5 which meant that all shops were closed for the night. We were able to convince a kid with a swastika on his arm to hook us up with a new tire. So about an hour and a half later we were on the road again and only had to spend another $60! We camped out in some town in Pennsylvania that night and made it safely to Jersey the following morning. Needless to say, we were very happy to be done with that trip. Now we get a 5 month break before we get to do it again.

Thursday, April 10, 2008

The Good Ol' Days

I've spent the past week packing up our house and decided to take a little break. We leave for New Jersey on Saturday and besides packing all the stuff we're taking, I've had to pack up all the stuff we're not taking because we're having some friends live in our house while we're gone. So needless to say, I've been extremely busy but now my house looks spotless. All the cupboards, counter tops, closets, etc. are completely empty. I found this picture while I was sorting through some stuff...
I don't remember being this age but I definitely remember my dad being into origami and making us crazy hats all the time like the one Ashley is wearing. He used to teach nursery so he got an origami book and the kids loved it. I have another picture somewhere of me wearing an origami graduation hat my dad made when I graduated from nursery. I also found this lovely picture...
I feel like maybe we were all too old to be naked in the bath together but I guess we were best friends so it's okay. Ashley and I were a little more modest than Jenna, who was not afraid to flaunt what she did not yet have. I still can't fathom the reasoning behind three grown girls taking a bath together. Maybe we were poor and had to save water. But at least we were tan.

Anyway, I just thought how funny it is when you're trying to clean or organize something and get completely sidetracked. It usually happens when pictures or old junior high love notes are involved. That happened to me today when I came across these pictures, but now I must get back to work.

Tuesday, April 1, 2008


I got to go home with my sisters last week to Pasco, WA and for some reason it was the funnest trip ever. We all decided we're much funnier there. I think it's because we got to act like kids again, with my mom taking care of us and no husbands...I dunno. I just wanted to share some highlights of the trip...

In the above picture, we were walking to our gate, which was about as far away as it possibly could be. We thought our seats were pretty close to the front (row 9) but apparently when you fly into a small airport, row 9 is 2 rows away from the back. Ashley nearly had a panic attack in the airport (I think it was her first time flying with Taya), but luckily Jenna and I were there to calm her down and wait with Taya as she ran back to security to get her phone.

My dad is building another egg farm in Pasco about 2 miles from our other one so we went to visit the new chickens. It was their big debut being Easter and all. All the white dots/circles in the picture are probably flecks of chicken manure floating around. I probably should have gone home and showered afterward but sometimes I guess I don't believe in being that sanitary.

My dad was kind enough to give us a tour of the place. This coop is not yet finished so we got to see it all nice and clean. It's two levels, 10 cages high...very big! I am really proud that I got to grow up on an egg farm. There probably aren't too many people in the world that can say that.

You'd think they'd get claustrophobic. I know I would.